---y0lk 98-----------------------------------------------------------------
y0lk 98: what ive seen of y0lk really sucks kojak
---y0lk 98-----------------------------------------------------------------
okay. heres the deal. i decided to write a y0lk explaining to the
y0lk readership why a lot of what youre reading isnt that good. im not
here to advertise another zine, and im not here to chastize anyone in
particular. but what i am going to say is that what ive seen of y0lk really
sucks.
i myself have been writing paper zines for almost a year now, and
reading/writing ezines for just as long or longer. no, thats *not* a long
time, ill agree with you. but its enough time for me to get a simple idea
of whats right and whats wrong in the publishing of zines.
i have long been exposed both in stuff sent in for review in my paper
zine and ezines ive read to bad writing that really shows no pretense of
thought. ive long put up with this type of writing, because i figure that
there will always be someone who doesnt write well who wants an outlet.
where will this person find an outlet if it werent for bad zines?
im not going to say that i like my writing. most of the stuff i
write i pick apart in my mind hundreds of times, and a lot of the stuff in
draft1 doesnt make it by draft5 or 6. thats what re-writes are for to
*correct your mistakes*. i do. you should. do you? think about it.
back to the bad zines writing: consider the average intelligence
of humans. now take that intelligence level and grapple with the fact that
50 of our race is WORSE OFF, intellectually. really makes you wanna cry,
doesnt it? well, so does a lot of the writing i see in bad zines/ezines.
and sometimes, from what ive seen, y0lk is no exception to this rule.
i really wish that a magazine or ezine would continue with the
integrity that it sets out. a standard of quality. i know that when i write,
i try my hardest to create something that others can respect - something that
i can read .. something people can learn from. i know that most zine writers,
if not all, have those same intentions when they start - skill or not. those
that do have the skill sometimes lose their patience with their work and lose
their standards, and some writers just dont have the skill at all. i am not
going to place myself in either category, nor will i try to place anyone else
in one. thats for you, the y0lk reader to decide. but, as an added note for
general zine writers and ezine writers please think about what youre
saying. what youre trying to say. because if it doesnt really have a
point - why waste everyones time?
as a general note to the ezine community.. everybody and their mother
has had to have a zine in the past few months. i know, spring fever gets
everyone excited about their writing - but lets work towards a common goal.
there are a few zines, and you know which ones they are, that meet or exceed
the goals they set for themselves. lets put our collective talents together
to make those zines better. i would rather read one lengthy, quality zine
than several shorter spur-of-the-moment bad zines. just because youre a
writer doesnt mean you have to have your own ezine.
now, i myself will soon fall prey to the need to have my own zine -
for i have found someone who is completely compatible with me not a girl-
friend, silly!, both in writing and personality styles. you will see it.
you will hopefully enjoy it. but there is one thing that i will be sure to
do, and thats ASSURE QUALITY CONTROL. please, when youre considering
writing for y0lk or another other zine, keep those three words in the back of
your mind. thank you.
---samurais note-----------------------------------------------------------
a rebuttal:
yes, errors, mistakes, bad writing - they plague us all. however, i
feel that y0lk has taken this badness and made it into something much better:
a truly subgenius or dada ideal of good is bad. prime examples are cheesy
ed wood sci-fi movies cult classics like plan nine from outer space, mars
needs women, and panic in year zero, girlie17 and gumby poetry - you cant
help but be entertained by the like.
every now and then, however, y0lk gets some good stuff. y0lk, having
no submissions policy but not for long.., cant help it. the reader takes
an active role in sorting out the shit. dont like the unbridled, never-
before-written-of teen angst of our y0lk rookie writers? well..
FUCK YOU.
sometimes it can be entertaining.
---index--------------------------------------------------------------------
.db.
title author
01 the other white meat creed
02 several k-leet hax0rs sittin around a campfire and groovin creed
03 nuclear weapons, global destruction, op wars. creed
04 a young man, an infant, a yak... all living in sin creed
05 household uses for afghanistanian food creed
06 pour cement down my anus hooch
07 hail santa! creed
08 hasidism and sysops - a pair for the nineties? hooch
09 lunchables rock. creed
10 t-shirts and toejam bedlam
11 nap-time - the dog prank - exclusive interview hooch
12 movie reviews showgirls!@ - win95 vs. os/2 sorta hooch
13 straight outta compton - dialchix - muh dawg!@ hooch
14 im a tall, goofy, dorky, chink phorce
15 bedazzled by the eliteness creed
16 how to blow your nuts out with cornstarch and orangina creed
17 i am a warez pup - who are you? hooch
18 lemmings phorce
19 the science of astrology belial
20 the notorious anticlimactic bastards of the zine scene cd/h0
21 dUcK 54uc3?!!? phorce
22 top 5000 reasons why i should kill myself creed
23 citrus fruits for sale phorce
24 group masturbation belial
25 ethereal experiences for perverted pyromaniacs creed
26 catering for the warez eleet phorce
27 brief mental pause belial
28 the army day camp belial
29 the geek theory, hickies, and another long day creed
30 nets, zines, and that chick from wings hooch
31 mentos! the freedom giver! mercuri
32 ramblings of a poseur bedlam
33 sitcoms, stereotypes, and satan creed
34 fuck you - a note to all yall on zines hooch
35 apples, oranges, and pears phorce
36 the little cultist that couldnt creed
37 careening through hyperspace at a slug-like rate creed
38 snowday phorce
39 creed is g0d creed
40 big hurt is ruler of the earth bighurt
41 dead people, nasty thoughts, and colored glue bighurt
42 bbs softwares/internet hooch
43 abandon thy gods! from yonder cometh y0lk! creed
44 mogels own very special personalized 1 y0lk issue phorce
45 your burro is no jackass! creed
46 rollerskates, indians, eagles and cougars creed
47 outer space, ice cream, streetcars and gophers creed
48 Evan the genius becomes enlightened and melts his face off creed
49 6 insignificant ziners in a bowling microcosm of life creed
50 the best of the worst creed
51 the prince of darkness versus some guy named dave trip
52 ode to my feet creed
53 hopelessly lost poots
54 the schoolhouse r0x! phorce
55 campbells chicken-noodle soup omen of death creed
56 dead cats juke
57 my inner taco handle
58 my place, or yours? mercuri
59 how to really use that spiffy monopoly money lumpy
60 struggle wif the giant pink elephant lucifer
61 why did the chicken cross the road? insane
62 y0lk test pattern mutter
63 ELiTE LiT from the master himself creed
64 creeds k-rad lit archives, volume two creed
65 UNSOPHISTICATED FASCIST BASTARDS. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME. creed
66 how y0lk saved my life sorta creed
67 shiny nickles, no more TP, and shitty knuckles ideal
68 some puppet plays phorce
69 ... Hello operator ... mutter
70 i bit my nail, now my finger is bleeding. traq
71 battle of the ants rage
72 fun on the phone ideal
73 yabba-dabba do, scooby-dooby do, and many other mysteries.. handle
74 i love you as my own mother sphrog
75 jamesy and the giant slinky jamesy
76 do not fuck with the big and hairy bears murmur
77 horror story oeb
78 dat wh0re s.sheep
79 the ewok rant taraxis
80 the arcade avenger tao
81 the night before 2600 d.cheez
82 journey into the mind of a no-brained counterculturist taraxis
83 a generic y0lk file mogel
84 cultural inclination? m.head
85 australia through the eyes of a spoon spoony
86 the life of a demented sysop spoony
87 little johnny carpenter franman
88 phan male ideal
89 bighurt is back! bighurt
90 the discovery channel sphrog
91 fruitopia caps!@ bighurt
92 the story of carla trip
93 a joltcola y0lk joltcola
94 spinsanes story spinsane
95 fish pillows, mothers, and limericks sphrog
96 cOsmic revelations, fever induced flashbacks, and pedOph... spinsane
97 stinky cheese and the seven messy petes joltcola
98 what ive seen of y0lk really sucks kojak
TT
--infoez-------------------------------------------------------------------
if you see your name on that chart, you are a y0lk member, whether you
like it or not. if you are a y0lk member, you have a y0lk member board, et
cetera.
phorce is the head samurai of y0lk!@ beware!
hooch is the stupendous chief shephard of y0lk.
mindcrime is a crazed oriental looking for revenge.
clarification: mindcrime may actually be a y0lk member. no one knows.
heil creed. HEIL! HEIL!
to get all the rest of the y0lks, ftp://ftp.openix.com/ftp/phorce/y0lk
or... call our world headquarters, erebus, at 201-762-1373. k-rad.
*or*... look for y0lkb0t on irc, efnet. type @y0lk number for y0lks.
OR... ATTENTION y0lkies! join the y0lk mailing list! chat about y0lk
and all them other zines, too! email listserv@magsystems.com with the line
subscribe y0lk in the body of the message.
OR! *new* alt.zines.y0lk! subscribe today! yes, folks, YOU can READ the
NEWSGROUP alt.zines.y0lk! isnt that special? join y0lknet too. thank phorce.
if you have ANY normal internet provider, you can read alt.zines.y0lk!@
OR OR OR!@ the *official* y0lk html is at http://www.openix.com/phorce/y0lk/
OR! coming soon! micro pirate radio! a y0lk hour-of-fun ON THE AIR!
sorry, available only for those in the northern new jersey area.
dont you feel like youre getting a little too much information here?
couldnt we just show our ftp site and shut up? its just sad that we
have to advertise all our cheap media at the bottom of every textfile
like this. what a bunch of losers we are.
y0lk 98: what ive seen of y0lk really sucks kojak
---y0lk 98-----------------------------------------------------------------
okay. heres the deal. i decided to write a y0lk explaining to the
y0lk readership why a lot of what youre reading isnt that good. im not
here to advertise another zine, and im not here to chastize anyone in
particular. but what i am going to say is that what ive seen of y0lk really
sucks.
i myself have been writing paper zines for almost a year now, and
reading/writing ezines for just as long or longer. no, thats *not* a long
time, ill agree with you. but its enough time for me to get a simple idea
of whats right and whats wrong in the publishing of zines.
i have long been exposed both in stuff sent in for review in my paper
zine and ezines ive read to bad writing that really shows no pretense of
thought. ive long put up with this type of writing, because i figure that
there will always be someone who doesnt write well who wants an outlet.
where will this person find an outlet if it werent for bad zines?
im not going to say that i like my writing. most of the stuff i
write i pick apart in my mind hundreds of times, and a lot of the stuff in
draft1 doesnt make it by draft5 or 6. thats what re-writes are for to
*correct your mistakes*. i do. you should. do you? think about it.
back to the bad zines writing: consider the average intelligence
of humans. now take that intelligence level and grapple with the fact that
50 of our race is WORSE OFF, intellectually. really makes you wanna cry,
doesnt it? well, so does a lot of the writing i see in bad zines/ezines.
and sometimes, from what ive seen, y0lk is no exception to this rule.
i really wish that a magazine or ezine would continue with the
integrity that it sets out. a standard of quality. i know that when i write,
i try my hardest to create something that others can respect - something that
i can read .. something people can learn from. i know that most zine writers,
if not all, have those same intentions when they start - skill or not. those
that do have the skill sometimes lose their patience with their work and lose
their standards, and some writers just dont have the skill at all. i am not
going to place myself in either category, nor will i try to place anyone else
in one. thats for you, the y0lk reader to decide. but, as an added note for
general zine writers and ezine writers please think about what youre
saying. what youre trying to say. because if it doesnt really have a
point - why waste everyones time?
as a general note to the ezine community.. everybody and their mother
has had to have a zine in the past few months. i know, spring fever gets
everyone excited about their writing - but lets work towards a common goal.
there are a few zines, and you know which ones they are, that meet or exceed
the goals they set for themselves. lets put our collective talents together
to make those zines better. i would rather read one lengthy, quality zine
than several shorter spur-of-the-moment bad zines. just because youre a
writer doesnt mean you have to have your own ezine.
now, i myself will soon fall prey to the need to have my own zine -
for i have found someone who is completely compatible with me not a girl-
friend, silly!, both in writing and personality styles. you will see it.
you will hopefully enjoy it. but there is one thing that i will be sure to
do, and thats ASSURE QUALITY CONTROL. please, when youre considering
writing for y0lk or another other zine, keep those three words in the back of
your mind. thank you.
---samurais note-----------------------------------------------------------
a rebuttal:
yes, errors, mistakes, bad writing - they plague us all. however, i
feel that y0lk has taken this badness and made it into something much better:
a truly subgenius or dada ideal of good is bad. prime examples are cheesy
ed wood sci-fi movies cult classics like plan nine from outer space, mars
needs women, and panic in year zero, girlie17 and gumby poetry - you cant
help but be entertained by the like.
every now and then, however, y0lk gets some good stuff. y0lk, having
no submissions policy but not for long.., cant help it. the reader takes
an active role in sorting out the shit. dont like the unbridled, never-
before-written-of teen angst of our y0lk rookie writers? well..
FUCK YOU.
sometimes it can be entertaining.
---index--------------------------------------------------------------------
.db.
title author
01 the other white meat creed
02 several k-leet hax0rs sittin around a campfire and groovin creed
03 nuclear weapons, global destruction, op wars. creed
04 a young man, an infant, a yak... all living in sin creed
05 household uses for afghanistanian food creed
06 pour cement down my anus hooch
07 hail santa! creed
08 hasidism and sysops - a pair for the nineties? hooch
09 lunchables rock. creed
10 t-shirts and toejam bedlam
11 nap-time - the dog prank - exclusive interview hooch
12 movie reviews showgirls!@ - win95 vs. os/2 sorta hooch
13 straight outta compton - dialchix - muh dawg!@ hooch
14 im a tall, goofy, dorky, chink phorce
15 bedazzled by the eliteness creed
16 how to blow your nuts out with cornstarch and orangina creed
17 i am a warez pup - who are you? hooch
18 lemmings phorce
19 the science of astrology belial
20 the notorious anticlimactic bastards of the zine scene cd/h0
21 dUcK 54uc3?!!? phorce
22 top 5000 reasons why i should kill myself creed
23 citrus fruits for sale phorce
24 group masturbation belial
25 ethereal experiences for perverted pyromaniacs creed
26 catering for the warez eleet phorce
27 brief mental pause belial
28 the army day camp belial
29 the geek theory, hickies, and another long day creed
30 nets, zines, and that chick from wings hooch
31 mentos! the freedom giver! mercuri
32 ramblings of a poseur bedlam
33 sitcoms, stereotypes, and satan creed
34 fuck you - a note to all yall on zines hooch
35 apples, oranges, and pears phorce
36 the little cultist that couldnt creed
37 careening through hyperspace at a slug-like rate creed
38 snowday phorce
39 creed is g0d creed
40 big hurt is ruler of the earth bighurt
41 dead people, nasty thoughts, and colored glue bighurt
42 bbs softwares/internet hooch
43 abandon thy gods! from yonder cometh y0lk! creed
44 mogels own very special personalized 1 y0lk issue phorce
45 your burro is no jackass! creed
46 rollerskates, indians, eagles and cougars creed
47 outer space, ice cream, streetcars and gophers creed
48 Evan the genius becomes enlightened and melts his face off creed
49 6 insignificant ziners in a bowling microcosm of life creed
50 the best of the worst creed
51 the prince of darkness versus some guy named dave trip
52 ode to my feet creed
53 hopelessly lost poots
54 the schoolhouse r0x! phorce
55 campbells chicken-noodle soup omen of death creed
56 dead cats juke
57 my inner taco handle
58 my place, or yours? mercuri
59 how to really use that spiffy monopoly money lumpy
60 struggle wif the giant pink elephant lucifer
61 why did the chicken cross the road? insane
62 y0lk test pattern mutter
63 ELiTE LiT from the master himself creed
64 creeds k-rad lit archives, volume two creed
65 UNSOPHISTICATED FASCIST BASTARDS. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME. creed
66 how y0lk saved my life sorta creed
67 shiny nickles, no more TP, and shitty knuckles ideal
68 some puppet plays phorce
69 ... Hello operator ... mutter
70 i bit my nail, now my finger is bleeding. traq
71 battle of the ants rage
72 fun on the phone ideal
73 yabba-dabba do, scooby-dooby do, and many other mysteries.. handle
74 i love you as my own mother sphrog
75 jamesy and the giant slinky jamesy
76 do not fuck with the big and hairy bears murmur
77 horror story oeb
78 dat wh0re s.sheep
79 the ewok rant taraxis
80 the arcade avenger tao
81 the night before 2600 d.cheez
82 journey into the mind of a no-brained counterculturist taraxis
83 a generic y0lk file mogel
84 cultural inclination? m.head
85 australia through the eyes of a spoon spoony
86 the life of a demented sysop spoony
87 little johnny carpenter franman
88 phan male ideal
89 bighurt is back! bighurt
90 the discovery channel sphrog
91 fruitopia caps!@ bighurt
92 the story of carla trip
93 a joltcola y0lk joltcola
94 spinsanes story spinsane
95 fish pillows, mothers, and limericks sphrog
96 cOsmic revelations, fever induced flashbacks, and pedOph... spinsane
97 stinky cheese and the seven messy petes joltcola
98 what ive seen of y0lk really sucks kojak
TT
--infoez-------------------------------------------------------------------
if you see your name on that chart, you are a y0lk member, whether you
like it or not. if you are a y0lk member, you have a y0lk member board, et
cetera.
phorce is the head samurai of y0lk!@ beware!
hooch is the stupendous chief shephard of y0lk.
mindcrime is a crazed oriental looking for revenge.
clarification: mindcrime may actually be a y0lk member. no one knows.
heil creed. HEIL! HEIL!
to get all the rest of the y0lks, ftp://ftp.openix.com/ftp/phorce/y0lk
or... call our world headquarters, erebus, at 201-762-1373. k-rad.
*or*... look for y0lkb0t on irc, efnet. type @y0lk number for y0lks.
OR... ATTENTION y0lkies! join the y0lk mailing list! chat about y0lk
and all them other zines, too! email listserv@magsystems.com with the line
subscribe y0lk in the body of the message.
OR! *new* alt.zines.y0lk! subscribe today! yes, folks, YOU can READ the
NEWSGROUP alt.zines.y0lk! isnt that special? join y0lknet too. thank phorce.
if you have ANY normal internet provider, you can read alt.zines.y0lk!@
OR OR OR!@ the *official* y0lk html is at http://www.openix.com/phorce/y0lk/
OR! coming soon! micro pirate radio! a y0lk hour-of-fun ON THE AIR!
sorry, available only for those in the northern new jersey area.
dont you feel like youre getting a little too much information here?
couldnt we just show our ftp site and shut up? its just sad that we
have to advertise all our cheap media at the bottom of every textfile
like this. what a bunch of losers we are.
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