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!: editorial :
Hi! This weekend Im a bit late because first I had some
problems to get an interview and secondly I discovered that
I wanted to make this issue a little sex-special. : So here
we are, having an interview with female scener and having some
reviews that fit into this theme. Oh, and thanks to Velikani
for the new Demojournal ascii logo. Enjoy the issue!
Melwyn
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!: demonews :
Sunflower:
Final version of Zilog can be found at http://mrock.iscool.net.
If the previous version jams on your computer, at latest this
version should work.
Sunray:
Total of 124 votes have been collected now for this review
mag of 1999. If you want to re-vote or havent voted yet you
have still this week left, around 15th day the voting closes.
If anyone wishes to review any music, gfx, demos, intros or
whatever, please send to PS anything you have before 15th.
One last thing, there are hardly any 4k intro reviews so im
warning you size coding freaks out there if you want something
to appear about the good 4ks that have been released on 1999
you better help me by sending the reviews im busy finishing
music and gfx to reboot 5 times in search of the config that
works for each specific 4k... - ps at csipd
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!: party on! :
starts !! ends !! location !! name !! contact !
Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1999 Hungary Conference 3000 http://hp.pardey.org/c3000
Nov 19 - Nov 21, 1999 Germany Breed 99 http://www.alienpub.com/breed/99
Nov ?? - Nov ??, 1999 Germany Cologne Conf. 99 http://www.academicus.de/cc98
Dec 11 - Dec 12, 1999 Slovenia Abort 99 http://www.stjost.org/abort99
! present time !
Dec 27 - Dec 28, 1999 Romania Dracula 99
Dec 27 - Dec 30, 1999 Denmark The Party 9 http://www.theparty.dk
Jan 21 - Jan 23, 2000 Finland Elevator 3 http://www.elevator.labra.com
Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2000 Holland Ambience 2000 http://www.ambience.nl
Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2000 Finland Rendezvous 01 http://rendezvous.stc.cx
Apr 19 - Apr 23, 2000 Norway The Gathering 1900 http://www.gathering.org
May 06 - May 07, 2000 Russia Parodox 2000 http://eltes.info-don.ru/kirr
May 26 - May 28, 2000 Germany Radwar Party 2000 http://www.radwar.com
May ?? - May ??, 2000 Germany Dialogos 2000 http://www.dialogos.cc/
Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2000 Belgium Inscene 2000 http://www.inscene.org
Aug ?? - Aug ??, 2000 Poland Gravity 2000 neuroup@agravedict.art.pl
Nov ?? - Nov ??, 2000 France Millenium Party 2K
??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 USA Bang! 2000 http://www.scene.org/bang!
??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 Australia Coven 2000 http://www.coven2000.org
Dec 13 - Dec 15, 2000 Holland ST News ICCC 2000 http://www.scriba.org/stnicc2000
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!: weekly :
This week! Ive been thinking about having sex with an alien.
! interview !
*** Now talking in demojournal
*** kisu- has joined demojournal
melw Hello!
kisu- Heya.
melw Welcome to interactive Demojournal interview. Your first task
is to share your common information with the readers - who and
what are you?
kisu- Well, Im 21 years old chick from Finland and people call me
Kisu. What am I? Thats hard to describe...
melw Ok. And this leads into another question..
How come a girl to be involved with demoscene
kisu- Well, I used to date a demoscener years ago and through him
I met lots of scene ppl and thats how I got involved with
the scene. At the beginning I didnt have any idea what
demoscene was, I just followed my boyfriend :
I think I was 16 years old at that time.
melw Do you do anything else than meeting youre scene friends and
going parties? A girl that goes to parties is not that special,
but a girl who codes would be really extraordinary. :
kisu- Id like to do music or graphics but Im so short tempered
that every time I try to learn the basics of the programs I
need, I lose my temper in half an hour. So basically I just
meet up with old friends and make new ones at parties.
melw Do you play any instrument or draw pictures in real-life, then?
kisu- I do drawings and I used to play flute - I still do it every
now and then. I have all this ideas about what kind of music
Id like to do but its really frustrating because I cant
produce it out of my head.
melw Transporting musical ideas to the tracker is not the easiest
possible thing. I play guitar myself and yes - its quite
frustrating if I have some cool idea in my mind but cant do
it with a tracker.
kisu- at parties I usually catch myself judging others proctions
and then realize I cant output mine into a format it could
be judged :
melw Try competing in wild compo. :
kisu- I should do that :
melw What kind of music you listen, then?
kisu- The music I listen to really varies and depends on my moods.
Sometimes its classical, sometimes country, but mostly
techno related music. Do I have to name specific artists?
melw Not if you dont want to.
kisu- Hehe :
melw Hey but now Ill ask some hard sex-related questions sure :
cause this is 69th issue of Demojournal.
kisu- w00p! Should I be scared now?
melw Perhaps? :
kisu- I dont get scared that easily :
melw Ok. What do you think about nerds in common? Its true many
sceners can be counted as such persons. No hope for men
hiding behind computers from your view?
kisu- In my opinion scene is very social thing after all. Of course
some of the ppl are real nerds and cant communicate with
other ppl face to face. The good thing is, that ppl like
that are minority.
And sometimes men hiding behind computers can be REAL
treasures
melw Hehe. Absolution to all you who are coding 12h/day to get
your demo ready before tp...
What charasterics you value the most in a man, then?
kisu- He must be extrovert, positive, not so serious and easygoing.
And of course funny.
* melw looks into himself and thinks if he fits into this
definition... :
kisu- :D maybe I just have to find out about that :
melw Krhm. Lets change the subject...
kisu- I agree :
melw Hey but one more question about sex. What do you think about
one night things?
kisu- I always say I dont support that kind of behaviour, but I
dont condemn ppl for doing it. But sometimes flesh is
weaker than the mind.
melw Oh, I almost forgot - are you single?-
kisu- I am, unfortunately. So all the cute guys who are reading
this, do e-mail me :
melw Okay. So now Ill test you with Demojournal quick quiz.
The idea in this is that I write a word and you must answer
as quickly as you can whatever pops in your mind about the
word.
kisu- Ok. Weird :
melw Ok. Are you ready?
kisu- I think I am.
melw Ren Pils editor: Perhaps the cheapest Danish beers
kisu- Beer :
melw Safe sex
kisu- A thing thats rather boring but very necessary.
melw Party
kisu- Friends that I dont get to see often enough. Beer.
Campfires.
melw Bustrips
kisu- Bus full of nerds that smell very bad :
melw Christmas
kisu- Celebration that is totally unnecessary.
melw 69
kisu- I guess you all can imagine what would be the first thing
that comes to my mind about that.
melw Love
kisu- Pain
melw Hippies
kisu- Bunch of ppl that are stuck in the past.
melw Aaaand friends
kisu- People I cant live without.
melw Okay. Lets a talk still a bit about your favourite-whatevers.
Like whats the most unforgettable party youve visited?
kisu- I believe TG97 would be it.
melw You were there? Damn, I dont remember you at all from the
bustrip..
kisu- I went by air :
melw Oh, that explains a lot.
kisu- I think that the couple of days in a bus with bunch of bad
smelling guys would have been too much :
melw Well, that I can imagine it can be hard especially for a girl...
What about demos, do you have any favourites?
kisu- Not specially something Id watch over and over again.
For some reason I respect the old demos more than the ones
made today.
And in my opinion a demo should have some kind of a plot.
Not just donuts bouncing around the screen :
melw I can understand that, Im also more to a bit older demos..
Like I got GUS thankss to Droid few weeks ago and now I c
an watch all the old intros and Demos etc. from Orange and
Halcyon. Real nice to watch them after a while.
melw Do you like travelling? At least youve been on some foreign
parties..
kisu- I love to travel. I need to get out of Finland at least
couple of times per year.
melw What country do you like most, then?
Can any other country beat Finland? :
kisu- I visited Antigua Barbuda last April and I totally fell
in love with the place. Id move there right this minute
if I had the chance.
Almost any other country beats Finland, yeah :
melw Whoa. Those countries are quite far away.. In fact - where
in hell they are located? :
kisu- In the Caribean, below Cuba.
melw Nice. So reggae music and suns shining there all the time? :
kisu- Yep. It was like visiting the paradise.
melw Do you have anyt other hobbies, besides travelling and partying?
kisu- Well, I started skydiving a bit over a year ago and that
takes a big part of my time during summertime. I love
clubbing and partying generally, downhill skiing and riding
horses.
melw Okay but now I think Im quite done with asking you more
questions. Do you have anything you would like to share with
the readers? Like advertising some URL:s or email address
so now all the single sceners can contact you : or anything.
kisu- All you goodlooking and fun scener guys, do e-mail me at
kisu@jere.net : I wish you all readers merry x-mas!
melw Merry x-mas to you, too! And thank you for the interview!
It was nice talking with you.
kisu- You too.
! demo !
Sexadelic by Byterapers
Demo from Assembly98, placed 4th
Would like to have Pentium, 32Mb of RAM and Vesa 2.0
Download:
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/parties/1998/assembly98/pcdemo/b-sex.zip
If anybody asked you what demo you remember from the Assembly 98
I think many of you would remember Sexadelic, though it came only
fourth in the competition itself.
Sexadelic as a demo that has a strong atmosphere. Through the
whole demo theres this same a bit monotonic discobeat tune by
Legend/CNCD. The colors are from time to time psychotic and the
musics mixed to several differend 2d effects on the background
and stylish women pictures on the foreground gives this certain
70s feeling psychedelic love - sexadelic party - narcotics.
Theres also some 3d in this demo, a vinyl record spinning in the
beginning, a mushroom scene and the love zoomer which dives from
a round room to another though a heart. I think the makers of this
demo have watched some old Steve McQueen movies, at least the credit
texts using the video material is very clever ending for the demo.
Worth of download?
Hell, sure! If you really have missed this one, get it now! Its
quite hard to find any bad poins from this demo. Well, not every
one likes the music and if youre not into the right mood for
this demo I can imagine it doesnt look that good, but anyways
its one of the top releases from 98 - do I need to say more.
Melwyn
! intro !
69 by The Black Lotus
64 kilobytes intro at Assembly 1996
9th place out of 13
Download:
ftp://ftp.scene.hu/.1/DEMO.96/Assembly.96/64k/tbl69.zip
Credits:
Laban - programming
Axm - graphics
Facet - graphics
Stryper - music
This is the 69th issue of Demojournal. What comes into ones
mind about this number? The hippies and Woodstock, probably.
There was also an intro with this title, but probably not too
many of us remember it.
It was released at Assembly96. This was the party where the
ever-famous demos Machines of Madness by Dubius and Vivid
Experiment by Doomsday were released. The winner of the intro
competition was Blind by Eufrosyne.
This intro was made by TBL. If you havent heard of this intro
so far, but you know TBLs more recent intros, like Jizz or
Stash - do not expect that quality. It was not this TBL back
then.
The topic is the hippis, as the title suggests. The subtitle
is actually Mind the little Hippies. The music is a merry
chiptune, it is nothing special. The intro starts with a fine
TBL logo, then there are some pictures bumped on it, like a
freedom-symbol and a smiley-face. This part is followed by a
plasma effect, which is boring and the pallette is terrible.
Then it changes to a parallel planes effect. The colors are
uhmm... strange here, too. Then comes a sunny-plasma, with
the palette of the first plasma effect. Then there is a
picture with a smoking nigga dude it is a good one
relatively. After this picture that parallel planes effect
comes again, but the texture is changed to 69 texts. The
colors are the same, do I need to mention it? At this place
the intro hangs on my machine, but I do not think that there
is much left after this point provided this is not the true
end of the intro....
This is everything, if not more than what one can say about
this intro. It was done in the summer of 1996. Then, something
happened with the brains of the TBL coders, some others
joined, too, and they released Jizz in the next summer...
By the way, I wonder if Demojournal will reach the 303th issue
g...
Gekko
gk@scene.hu gk@scene.hu
! music !
Giving tree
Siren
www.imphobia.org
Imphobia offers for download special version of 4th track of
Audiophonic, which was written by Alexander Brandon known as
Siren. For those who dont know - he is member of Straylight,
a group which has made music for games like Crusader and Unreal.
His probably best scene release is musicdisk Oracle, which
he has composed together with Sirrus and released under Juni.
Giving tree is written in a style which is somewhere between
his music from Oracle mostly from rhythmical side and from Unreal
in the area of melodies. To this combination he adds vocals,
which are only average but they quite fit to the track. Whole
track is good, but he has made much better songs and I was a
bit disappointed - Ive expected something better for the CD.
Still it is a good song, but I would recommend you more getting
mentioned Oracle musicdisk.
Doin it 99
carlos
jecoute.cjb.net
Welcome to our jazz station where we have today 2 new releases
by carlos and smash. First song Doin it 99 by carlos is build
on the main guitar riff from Herbie Hancock tune Doinit.
Fortunatelly Carlos was again in the mood and made more than a
remix and came out with great and wild song which is in some points
similar to Streets of Budapest. Second song is spider to the
fly by smash and since the beginning youll hear in it influence
from Jamiroquai mixed with smashs own ideas that make it unique
and give it different sound. This song has also won dejavu 2
multichannel compo.
So if you feel like you would like to hear a bit of good old jazz
again, visit jecoute.
Thyruk
! quote !
Its your choice:
fthr sex or CNCD
! homepages !
Groups:
3g Design..............................http://3gdesign.cjb.net
Acid Rain..............................http://surf.to/acidrain
Anakata..............................http://www.anakata.art.pl
Astral..............................http://astral.scene-hu.com
Astroidea........................http://astroidea.scene-hu.com
AtomiK....................................http://atomik.ini.hu
Bomb..................................http://bomb.planet-d.net
BlaBla..............................http://blabla.planet-d.net
Blasphemy..............................http://www.blasphemy.dk
Byterapers.....................http://www.byterapers.scene.org
Calodox.................................http://www.calodox.org
Chrome..............................http://chrome.scene-hu.com
* CoPro.....................................http://www.copro.org
Defacto 2..............................http://www.defacto2.net
Dolops......................... ........http://dolOps.scene.hu
Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/exceed
Fobia Design...........................http://www.fd.scene.org
GODS...................................http://www.idf.net/gods
Green.....................................http://green.dyns.cx
Grif........................http://arrabonet.gyor.hu/rattgrif
Haujobb......................................http://haujobb.de
Hellcore............................http://www.hellcore.art.pl
IJSKAST.............................http://www.ijskast.cjb.net
Immortals..............................http://imrt.home.ml.org
Infuse...................................http://www.infuse.org
Just For Fun...........................http://jff.planet-d.net
Kilobite...............................http://kilobite.cjb.net
Kolor................................http://www.kaoz.org/kolor
Kooma.....................................http://www.kooma.com
Label zero.........................http://labelzero.pganet.com
Mandula.........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/mandula
Monar................ftp://amber.bti.pl/pub/scene/distro/monar
Noice.....................................http://www.noice.org
Orion..............................http://orion.arfstudios.org
Quad........................................http://www.quad.nl
Rage........................................http://www.rage.nu
Replay.......................http://www.shine.scene.org/replay
* Retro A.C...........................http://www.retroac.cjb.net
Rhyme................................http://rhyme.scene-hu.com
SHR8M......................................http://1st.to/shr8m
Skytech team............................http://www.skytech.org
Sunflower.......................http://sunflower.opengl.org.pl
Suspend......................http://www.optimus.wroc.pl/rappid
Tehdas...................................http://come.to/tehdas
Tesko..........................http://www.scentral.demon.co.uk
The Black Lotus.............................http://www.tbl.org
The Digital Artists Wired Nation.http://digitalartists.cjb.net
The Lost Souls...............................http://www.tls.no
TPOLM.....................................http://www.tpolm.com
Trauma.................................http://sauna.net/trauma
T-Rex.....................................http://www.t-rex.org
Universe..........................http://universe.planet-d.net
Vantage.........................http://www.profzone.ch/vantage
Music:
Aisth.....................................http://www.aisth.com
Blacktron Music Production...........http://www.d-zign.com/bmp
Chill..........................http://www.bentdesign.com/chill
Chiptune...............................http://www.chiptune.com
Da Jormas................................http://www.jormas.com
Five Musicians.........................http://www.fm.scene.org
Fridge...........................http://www.ssmedion.de/fridge
Ignorance.............................http://www.ignorance.org
Intense...........................http://intense.ignorance.org
Jecoute.................................http://jecoute.cjb.net
Kosmic Free Music Foundation.............http://www.kosmic.org
Level-d.................................http://www.level-d.com
Milk.......................................http://milk.sgic.fi
Mah Music.............................http://come.to/mah.music
Maniacs of noise...............http://home.worldonline.nl/mon
MAZs Sound homepage.............http://www.th-zwickau.de/maz
Moplayaz..........................http://ssmedion.de/moplayaz
Mono211.................................http://www.mono211.com
Morbid Minds..............http://www.raveordie.com/morbidminds
Noise................................http://www.noisemusic.org
One Touch Records......................http://otr.planet-d.net
Radical Rhythms.....http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/merrelli/rr
RBi Music.............................htpp://www.rbi-music.com
Ruff Engine................http://members.xoom.com/ruffengine
Sound Devotion................http://sugarbomb.x2o.net/soundev
Soundstate.........................http://listen.to/soundstate
Sunlikamelo-D...........http://www.error-404.com/sunlikamelo-d
Suspect Records........................http://www.tande.com/sr
Tequila........................http://www.defacto2.net/tequila
Tempo................................http://tempomusic.cjb.net
Theralite...........................http://theralite.avalon.hr
Tokyo Dawn Records........................http://tdr.scene.org
UltraBeat.........................http://www.innerverse.com/ub
Vibrants................................http://www.vibrants.dk
People:
3d addict...................http://users.cybercity.dk/bcc5877
Anders Akerheden...............http://hem.passagen.se/andersak
Ari..............................http://www.primenet.com/arie
Attack..............................http://attack.planet-d.net
Balrog.........................http://www.mds.mdh.se/mek98adl
Carlos..............................http://www.nexus.hu/carlos
!Cube......................http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/tlonnber
* Cyclone..................................http://zap.to/cyclone
Dave.............................http://www.come.to/davecorner
DaVinci.................................http://davinci.ice.org
Echo................................http://www.kki.net.pl/echo
Exocet..........................http://jff.planet-d.net/exocet
Flan.............................http://www.error-404.com/flan
Gardner................................http://www.gardner.z.pl
Grabule........................http://members.xoom.com/grabule
Hunz............................http://www.globec.com.au/hunz
HP........................................http://hp.pardey.org
Inferno............................http://inferno.planet-d.net
Jean Nine....................................http://j9.cjb.net
Jimsendu............................http://home.sol.no/ojakobs
Jupiter....................http://members.xoom.com/JupiterCode
* Lazur....................................http://lazur.punkt.pl
Leviathan....................http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/ajcarlso
Los........................http://www.angelfire.com/in/miku305
Mephisto.............................http://www.chez.com/shiva
Mystical................................http://www.mystical.dk
Nekrite.....................................http://move.to/ap0
Nico....................................http://geecs.org/nico
Nino...................http://www.saunalahti.fi/kuusnie/tapsa
Nogsf..............................http://www.saers.com/nogsf
Pow.................................http://home.sol.no/tskara
Rents................................http://newdigital.tsx.org
Rez.................................http://reeeeez.citeweb.net
Rod.................................http://www.inf.bme.hu/rod
Scorpik............................http://scorpik.planet-d.net
Shodan...............................http://shodan.skytech.org
Skal..................................http://skal.planet-d.net
Skaven..........................http://isis.yok.utu.fi/skaven
Sol..................................http://www.icon.fi/solar
Spell.........................http://www.ThePentagon.com/Spell
Splif..............................http://splif.aegis-corp.org
Szoke......................................http://szoke.ini.hu
TheREW..............................http://home.wxs.nl/therew
Traven..............................http://traven.planet-d.net
TS................................http://www2.hawaii.edu/myee
Tuo.....................................http://tuo.skytech.org
Unlock...........................http://www.profzone.ch/unlock
* Velikani.............................http://ltk.hut.fi/akiuru
Vivid..................................http://vivid.kosmic.org
Wain.............http://zevs.ifi.ntnu.no/frankwer/gfx/gfx.htm
Warder...............................http://www.dlc.fi/warder
Willbe...................................http://willbe.cjb.net
Yannis...........................http://www.zip.com.au/yannis
Zden....................................http://message.sk/zden
Others:
Arf!Studios..........................http://www.arfstudios.org
Calodox demolinks exchange.....http://calodox.planet-d.net/cde
coders..................................http://coderz.cjb.net
Comic Pirates.........................http://scene-central.com
Demo fanclub........................http://jerware.org/fanclub
Digital Undergrounds.....................http://dug.iscool.net
Doose charts...............................http://www.doose.dk
Dreams2 CD.........................http://nl.scene.org/dreams2
Freax...................http://freax.scene-hu.com/mainmenu.htm
GfxZone.................................http://www.gfxzone.org
Hugi size-compo...............http://home.pages.de/hugi-compo
Orange Juice.........................http://ojuice.citeweb.net
PC-demos explained.....http://www.oldskool.org/demos/explained
Pixel...................................http://pixel.scene.org
Scenet....................................http://www.scenet.de
Sunray..............................http://sunray.planet-d.net
Swiss......................http://www.profzone.ch/vantage/list
TakeOver................................http://www.takeover.nl
Textmode Demo Archive.................http://tmda.planet-d.net
Hungarian scene page...................http://www.scene-hu.com
Trebel...................................http://www.trebel.org
Zen of Tracking.........................http://surf.to/the-imm
Diskmags:
Amber...............................http://amber.bti.pl/dimag
Amnesia...............http://amnesia-dist.future.easyspace.com
Demojournal....................http://demojournal.planet-d.net
Fleur................................http://fleur.scene-hu.com
Heroin...................................http://www.heroin.net
Hugi........................http://home.pages.de/hugidownload
Pain........................,,,,,,....http://pain.planet-d.net
Static Line......................http://www.ic.l7.net/statline
Total Disaster...................http://www.totaldisaster.w.pl
TUHB.......................................http://www.tuhb.org
* WildMag...........................http://www.wildmag.notrix.de
Ftps:
Amber.......................................ftp://amber.bti.pl
Cyberbox.....................................ftp://cyberbox.de
Flerp............new files listed.......ftp://flerp.scene.hu
Scene.org........new files listed........ftp://ftp.scene.org
Skynet archive.................ftp://acid2.stack.nl/pub/skynet
ACiD2 Archive.............................ftp://acid2.stack.nl
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!: articles :
Retro a.c. - superstar djs:
- note from the author
Since we have freedom of speech and Id like to have my moment
of defence Ill say few words about the Superstar djs demo.
First of all Id like to thank Seven for great review.
About the system requirements. The demo does not need 128mb of
memory. Optimal system requirement are in my demos based on the
machines the demos were developed on. And I do not have anykind
of memory handling.. except if you run out of memory you wont
see the demo So the superstar djs works with 32mb or even
less. Some Essex demos Ive done work on a p120 with 16mb
of mem and greyscale mode, but arent that fast. And the system
requirements in the info file is something like pII etc.
At this point I could say that I was planning this demo to
TP9 so that I could have time to make a 3dengineI made the
engine from a scratch in few weeks is big complishment with
my talents and a great design. But about three weeks before
Dreamhack99 I realised that I didnt have any production
to take there so I started to make the superstar djs to DH.
I my self am quite satisfied with the result considering the
the time I had to make it compared to my talents
And about the MIDAS frameCount thing.. all movement is based
on that frameCount of MIDAS and it seems to make little
pauses under windows and even in plain DOS and thats why
the demo have these little so called pauses.. Its not related
to the machines speed in anyway.. Sorry about that.. I dont
know what causes it, because Damones Asm99 demo doenst have
the problem and both demos are built with same MIDAS options
cutnpaste etc...
So I think in future in TP9 for example youll see in DOS
demos that I make the same problem.. but demos will be much
nicer and probably less minimalistic.. I think..
Anyways go watch the demo and dont judge it with a hard
hand.. And wait for our The Party 9 demo featuring Trem Muls
from the disk by md again... Gotta do some work.. some
f*ck*ng smsgateway stuff in c++.. yep.. and I dont know a
shit about c++..
m.siren
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