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How
long have you been involved in the scene?
About two years plus some months
What positions have you held during that time?
Prior to I-Net I was president of
UPSS <g>, since i came i-net, i've been everything
from a member to a 'leader' to a 'founder' in my
groups...i've been a trader...for Everlast,
Empire,Paradigm, and Razor...that's LD trader,
analog..not net =) and i was very good, usually making
the top ten each week on the boards i traded
to...Malevolence, Purgatory and Street Spyder's ...was a
'co-founder' of Apoc with Bandito, was a 'co-founder' of
Executive with WKnight...was a leader in Siege, was a
leader in MTY, was a PDM member in good standing, a
member in good standing with Class, and a member in good
standing when PDM merged with Razor. I've been a supplier
for the past year or so..that's software and hardware-
.for PDM,MTY,Razor,Empire, Class,Executive and Siege and
i've supported more than just my groups...i have
supported different sites , boards, groups and
individuals ...if there was a need, and we could fill
it..we usually tried to do that.
Please describe the events that led up to your retirement
That's a funny story...I just got tired of saying no when
lamers would ask me if i narked Akira or if I had narked
this xforce member or that xforce member...and i got
tired of the packages coming to my real address, and the
phone calls to three of my phone lines..and the bullshit
email and logs of my personal info and stuff like that
-and hearing from different people in the scene that
xforce said this, or xforce said that <referring to me
being a nark or a fed> and refusing logs of stingray
and his 'boys' pasting my personal info in channels, or
saying i was a fed cuz they were 99% sure <g>....it
was getting to be no fun, and like harassment..so i just
talked with my d00dz and decided to pull the plug before
they followed through on threats they had made to several
different people ...and yes, it's all confirmable...and
no im not gonna get into who it can be confirmed
with...it's over..im outta the scene, so it won't do any
good
Who in particular do you believe was responsible for the
personal attacks on you?
X-Force...definitely..that's what all the logs said,
that's what all the guys said ...in particular, it was
from Stingray...
Do you have any insight as to the motivation behind the
attacks?
Well, i agree with what one of the founders of Siege
said...it's just some strange mentality..whether it's
jealousy or some over inflated ego or just this new 'bust
or be busted' mentality that seems to have taken over the
scene lately....all the nuking and narking and reporting
peoples isps and taking over channels and hacking
sites..it's insane, and so very counterproductive...and
you can't even get a straight answer from the people or
the groups that seem to originate all this
negativity...so who knows? The only thing i know is that
it sucks ...and I won't be a part of it ...the scene's
not worth personal risk, or legal troubles ...not like
this anyway What
was Bug Lords involvement in all of this?
Haha, i think Bug Lord started this somehow....we were on
a conference call, i can't even remember when or who all
was on it..i know bug was on it and some of the razor
guys, maybe some xforce guys..i don't really
remember..but siege had just had some of it's members
k/bed from #ucf and #xforce and some other channels...so
i was in this little 'msg war' with riddler and some guys
..i think random and somebody else, but i don't remember
who it was ..about six months ago..anyway, these other
guys start pasting me logs of different channels and my
personal info was showing up and some of the xforce guys
were saying they were gonna 'kill' my isps or whatever it
was ...so i was laffing and telling buggie on the
conf..so he decided to take out riddler's router
<g> and i laffed when he said that..well by the
next day, it was all turned around..and i had 'begged'
buglord to take out a router, instead of just laffing
when he said he was going to...so a week later i ended up
with no isps...and no shells...when i tried to talk to
stingray about it , the whole conversation was bizarre
and i just left it alone...i got new isps and got back
online, and started supplying again..
What is your
opinion on the use of nukes/denial of service attacks
within the scene?
it's lame and it should really stop...its about as lame
as taking a channel or hacking a site..not to mention
counterproductive as hell
Do you think there was any connection between the denial
of service attack and the anonymous phone call to your
ISPs?
At this point in time, i think that's a moot
point...probably, maybe...i dunno
What were the
official reasons given for the cancellation of your
Internet services?
f***** canceled because some new guy was on when the
email and phone calls came in..the 'owner' is a personal
friend of the family, so when he got back from his little
vacation i went over and talked to him and i got one of
the accts back, but no shell =( netcom sent all my stuff
over to 'netcom abuse' department...and since it was the
third or fourth time they grabbed it, i couldn't get them
back...<shells and two isp connex> earthlinnk just
canceled the accounts and shell and website...for
violation of terms of service
Narcing is a
very serious offense in this business, as far as you
know, do "they" have any solid proof to support
this accusation?
nope...im not a nark, never was...i'm a supplier...or was
one, of software AND hardware...and have enough friends
in the scene that i have supported in different ways that
know im not a fed or a nark or whatever they're saying,
or said...stingray's 'proof' was something about a phone
call from florida ...that's it =) which is kinda sad,
because we know now that there was a whole lot more to
this story than a phone call from florida...
Were there any
other circumstances that played a part in your decision
to call it quits?
yeh, it's not fun anymore...too many really really lame
people in the scene now, with serious conflicts..maybe no
lives, i dunno...it used to be fun, it was US against
THEM..with them being the publishers and big business,
and us being anybody who could get a new title and rip it
or trade it or crack it, or anybody who could set up a
site or a bbs ...and it was US putting it out...so
everybody could use it or play it , without paying big
bux for the privilege...now it's all takeover of
channels, hacking of sites, nuking and bonking and
boinking...calling isps, stealing releases off rival
sites...it's not fun...that's the major reason...i'm not
saying i'm done forever, cuz i really liked this pirating
stuff ...but i'm a little bit leery of just doing it so
open like before...because there are some seriously bent
people in the scene now..if they can't out release
somebody, or out trade or out crack...they're gonna nark
that person just to eliminate the competition...and
that's seriously fukked ...i wish it was like before, but
somehow i don't have a lot of faith that things are going
to get fixed...and that's sad...it should be FUN, and
challenging, and it's not...now its all ego and phone
calls to isp's and nuking and channel takeovers... one
thing i would like to say is that all of you in the scene
who remember the way it used to be need to lay siege and
take it back ..make it right again ...that would be
sincerely KEWL ...
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Overview of
scenelink coverage.
readGoodbyes to
ChinaBlue
read
A Letter
from Roamer addressing charges that ChinaBlue was
responsible for the closing of Beyond Akira.
read
ChinaBlue's
original farewell to the scene
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