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[:=========================================================== :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - starts !=! ends !===! location !===! name !=========! contact !================ Aug 27 - Aug 29, 1999 France LTP 3 http://ltp.planet-d.net Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 Poland Gravity#4 http://www.anadune.optimus.wroc.pl/gravity Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 France RTS Party 2000-1 http://RTS-PartY.imag.fr Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 Holland Bizzare '99 http://bizzare.nl Sep 05 - Sep 07, 1999 Sweden The Demoparty '99 http://www.demoparty.com Sep 10 - Sep 12, 1999 Sweden Regal '99 http://regal.amphibic.com Sep 24 - Sep 26, 1999 Poland Horizon '99 http://www.horizon.siec.pl Sep 25 - Sep 26, 1999 Portugal Mira Amiga '99 http://www.surf.to/paug Sep 26 - Sep 28, 1999 Hungary Rage-Scenest '99 http://scenest.scene-hu.com Sep 30 - Oct 03, 1999 Norway Distance '99 http://www.neutralzone.org/distance Oct 01 - Oct 03, 1999 Germany Dialogos '99 http://www.dialogos.cc =========! present time !====================================================== Oct 08 - Oct 10, 1999 Sweden The Feeling '99 http://www.thefeeling.net Oct 09 - Oct 11, 1999 Spain Arroutada Party 7 http://www.arroutada.ddns.org Oct 14 - Oct 17, 1999 Norway Norvegia '99 http://www.neutralzone.org/norvegia/norvegia99 Oct 30 - Nov 01, 1999 France Central Party '99 http://www.chez.com/centralparty Nov 04 - Nov 07, 1999 Sweden Dreamhack '99 http://www.dreamhack.org Nov 05 - Nov 07, 1999 Argentina The Flash '99 http://www.theflashparty.com.ar/ Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1999 Hungary Conference 3000 Nov 19 - Nov 21, 1999 Germany Breed '99 http://www.alienpub.com/breed/99 Nov ?? - Nov ??, 1999 Germany Cologne Conf. '99 http://www.academicus.de/cc98 Dec 13 - Dec 15, 1999 Slovenia Abort '99 Dec 13 - Dec 15, 1999 Holland ST News ICCC 2000 http://www.scriba.org/stnicc2000 Dec 27 - Dec 30, 1999 Denmark The Party 9 http://www.theparty.dk Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2000 Finland Rendezvous 01 http://rendezvous.stc.cx Apr 19 - Apr 23, 2000 Norway The Gathering 1900 May 06 - May 07, 2000 Russia Parodox 2000 http://eltes.info-don.ru/kirr May 26 - May 28, 2000 Germany Radwar Party 2000 http://www.radwar.com Nov ?? - Nov ??, 2000 France Millenium Party 2K ??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 USA Bang! 2000 http://www.scene.org/bang! ??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 Belgium Inscene 2000 http://www.inscene.com ??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 Australia Covern 2000 http://www.coven2000.com ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] weekly [:============================================================== :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - This week! I have been mostly eating... boredom =====! interview !============================================================= Session Start: Wed Sep 22 01:14:36 1999 *** pyro has joined #demojournal <|ps|> hello! who are you? I am the one and only pyromaniac of beyond... <|ps|> oh yeah? and who is that? my name is paul bragiel, I'm 22 years old, and I'm a male exotic dancer. <|ps|> do you have any references from previous jobs? have you ever danced for someone famous? one time I danced for margaret thatcher when she was on a political relations tour here in the united states. she was talking dirty to me the whole time. it was quite disturbing. as for references, I'm the closing act at the 'stud shack' <|ps|> ok, whats the normal fee for your services? I usually charge 200$/hour for a private dance. there are time when I go up or down in price, it depends on how sexy my clients are. <|ps|> i see i see, ok, what do you do scene-wise? well I'm one of the few sceners left that does pure organization. it seems like we are a dying breed. I used to be a pixeler but that was dropped when I found my true calling. <|ps|> when have you first started your scene career? I started in december of 93 when someone uploaded Saga by Dust to my BBS. I haven't looked back since. <|ps|> where are you from again? I am from the city of Chicago, in the United States! <|ps|> united states, well well, what can you tell us about the scene there? I can tell you that my group is the only group that is active that I know of. outside of us its a barren wasteland of lame tracker groups and even lamer ansi groups. amazingly enough we all live a short walk/drive from each other. <|ps|> chicago is pretty big! how come there are no demogroups? this is a question I get asked quite often. my feeling is that just as people were starting to figure out the demo scene, the internet came along and everyone got excited in making 'internet' groups. as a result people joined groups in which they never saw their fellow members. as we all know, this is not the environment to make a demo. I lay a lot of the blame on groups like Kosmic, Hornet, and other internet moguls of the time. <|ps|> we know that? you could have fooled me well moving along, look at the some of the greatest demos of our time. all were made by a few core members being in close proximity to each other (most specifically the artist and coder) <|ps|> so your point is? demoscene sucks couz there are no close groups of friends interested on demos? yes... my point is that since everyone spread themselves out due to the internet instead of developing a group locally, the scene here wasn't able to develop properly. <|ps|> ok, so lets talk about beyond! who are you and what have you been doing? well we are a group that has been around since 1996 and was created strictly to be a group that was locally based. in fact every one of the members went to the same university and lived at the most 8 minutes walk from each other. <|ps|> what have you done? recently we added a whole new montreal division that has 5 members that are all a subway ride away from each other. well our productions mostly go unreleased. we've created 1 demo, a few realtime raytracing intros, and the chartsmag 'heroin'. we're also developing on the Game Boy Color nowadays. <|ps|> game boy color? :) what are you doing for gameboy? to those of you in europe that aren't familiar with this system, its a portable game console from Nintendo. well we are doing everything from the ever fun intros to our fulltime project which is a overhead racing game. <|ps|> we have gameboys on europe pyro :P we have capitalism too! :) you recently visited europe didnt you? (i know you did) what did you think of it? well I thought europe was great. I definately could see myself working/living there for a year or 2. best part of the trip as usual is seeing the many different women! <|ps|> what countries did you visit? what kind of diferent women? ;) well I visited 13 countries (14 if you count the vatican city!) as for the different women, well each country has their own different flavor. it makes you want to taste them all! if you want, I could bore the readers to death and list all of them. <|ps|> i heard the italians are really going for it.. got any luck? ;) who gives a fuck about readers? i want to know about that italien chick! :P well it was quite funny... my cousin and I were staying in Rome and we got totally drunk off italian wine. <|ps|> go on.. we ended up near the Trevi fountain and we found a few girls... we tried to approach them speaking english, but alas it did not work... good think my cousin is from Quebec so we both could speak french... <|ps|> italians know french? so we would just speak french but add in a stupid Italian accent... needless to say it worked! no... but there were many words in common that they understood... so it was enough to communicate. needless to say we the all of us drank the less we care if we could understand each other... <|ps|> hi! whats your name? wanna fuck? your place or mine? ;) then they invited us to their apartament (they were roomates)... and that is where I'll let you guys think about it! <|ps|> ok, hope you underaged kids dont have any bad-thoughs about this! so when are you planning to come back to europe? I think we were attracted to each other simply because we didn't understand each other and that we could brag to our friends that we induldged in a foreign treat! actually I hope to be back in 2 years at the most. I have family in Poland and Croatia so that is all the more reason to get back as soon as possible. I'm waiting for an introduction to some cute Portuguese women on my next visit. <|ps|> that can be arranged ;) what demopartys have you been to and which ones were best/worst? well I've been at Naid 95 and 96.. I've also held MANY scene gathering here in Chicago of around 40 people, and recently I just went to TO99! I think the best one I went to was Naid 96, we had 11 people from the Chicago area make the trip... and needless to say that Montreal is a GREAT city! after that TO99 roxed big time... I also finally got to meet my closest scene contact, Sky of Xography after knowing him since 1994. <|ps|> family reunion :) aint that sweet? another cool party, but not strictly scene related was E3 in 1998.. this time I met up with 30+ demo sceners from all over the world that are working in the industry... quite a lot of free boozing at the free parties! <|ps|> what do you think of european partys compared to the ones in the us? well they are much bigger... at least the one I went to. there also are a lot more productions... I was dissapointed though that I didn't see one person besides Sky open up a copy of Deluxe Paint or GFX2!!! I definately thought it was cool that they were selling booze at the TO party place. Cheers go out to The REW for being the main organizer of such a nice party. Session Close: Wed Sep 22 02:02:25 1999 Session Start: Thu Sep 30 00:40:32 1999 <|ps|> are you ready for topquiz show contest? :) sure. I always suck at trivia. unless its HARDCORE scene trivia. <|ps|> 1) whats the capital of madagascar? fux if I know... why didn't you ask me for the capital of Mongolia. <|ps|> 2) whats your favorite sex position? when the chiq is riding me! <|ps|> 3) whats your favorite color? blue. <|ps|> 4) what is the best country is the world? KAZAKSTAN! with Poland in 2nd. <|ps|> 5) what is the matrix? a mathematical term with the letter 'x' in it. <|ps|> do you have a pet? nope... had a fish, he died. <|ps|> did you gave him a proper burrial or was he flushed down the toilet? I gave him up to the toilet gods... they were quite happy. <|ps|> so you said you started on this scene biz on 93! how were things back then and how have they developed? things were smaller... almost everyone elite had contact with each other... now the amount of people are HUGE.. yet the number of truly elite people is about the same... and unfortunately many don't have contact with each other. some of the parties this year seem to have changed that a bit and the 'scene' atmosphere is back. but there will always be cheesy things that exist... <|ps|> cheesy things? well sometimes people get to carried away with being too nice to newbies or stessing how they are friends with everyone even tho they have only said 1-2 lines to each other. <|ps|> i see i see :) lets talk likes and dislikes! what are your fav coder/gfx/musician? well musicians it has to be Scorpik and Jugi... for coders I'm a bit more old school biased... I'm a big fan of Stone of Dust, Jmagic of Complex, and the newest guy is 216 of MFX... this guy rox! and for artists.. I could go for hours.. but my top 3 are... 1. Ra 2. Cyclone 3. Jamon and honorable mention to Sky! I forgot one musician.. and I feel horrible about it... #1 all time is Emax of TRSi.. this guy is my god. <|ps|> humm.. you dont happen to know what happened to him do you? i used one of his tracks on one of my lame demos like.. 2 years ago without premission.. i cant find his email anywhere :P man... I wish I did... I would love to work with him really badly... so if anyone is reading this please get me his contact info. one time I tracked down his name and that was it. :) he never included anything in his song info texts. <|ps|> i noticed he didnt :P just an emax/trsi somewhere and that was it.. all i know is he's german. :) <|ps|> ok.. reward for finding emax/trsi is up :) now.. what are your favorite intro/demo? intros.. anything by Complex or MFX... especially BillGForce, and Gamma. <|ps|> gamma2 kicks rears on big screens :) demos... I'm a huge fan of Sunflower and Pulse... and another one of my cult favorites is Plastik by Chrome <|ps|> why? it has some cool music, and some great art by Das.. another reward goes out to anyone that know what happend to DAS! Emax and Das need to be contacted immediately. <|ps|> :) what do you do on real life? well I recently graduated university and am now working for a HUGE consulting firm called Arthur Andersen... its boring but pays very well. besides that I like to hit clubs and play soccer. <|ps|> whats your soccer team? its a club team called 'green & white' its more of a recreational league now tho since I can't dedicate as much time to it as I did in school. <|ps|> have you ever won any game? quite a few... we always seem to do better in the indoor league tho. <|ps|> :) ok, i dont know whatelse to ask! feel like saying something stupid for the masses? don't get fat. and try to hit on women telling them how awesome of a coder you are.. they always love that. <|ps|> ok.. thank you for your time! you can leave your email here :) yea.. mail me at paul@heroin.net or paul@demos.org Session Close: Thu Sep 30 01:25:42 1999 =====! demo !================================================================== GoatAge by Noice (final version) Found at www.noice.org 1st place at Remedy'99 System requirements: PII 233 or better, 5.4 MB HD, 64 MB RAM, Windows9x Ramblings: Begin September, ps asked me to review GoatAge/Noice, the winner of Remedy'99, as Gnilk/Noice had asked him why we had not reviewed it. As a matter of facts, I had already reviewed it, but for Static Line, a monthly e-mag that is less Well known than DemoJournal. Generally, I don't like to see the same article (be it mine or other peoples) in different mags. But because there is a final version available, I can "update" the review, so it is not EXACTLY the same article, and my conscience is clear :) I've simply added things about the final version in [brackets], because 1) I'm lazy, 2) it might be interesting to know what bugs were fixed in the final. BTW, you can get Static Line at http://www.ic.l7.net/statline The demo: This is definitely one of the best demos I've seen recently, despite the fact that it is a (slow) partyversion, and win-only. [The summer has brought us many good demos, but GoatAge is still very good, and is now much faster.] It has a strange kind of feeling, as there are impressive and well-done effects, but often with funny details or crazy "poems", like: "I walk my path/to the virtual goatland/facing my destiny/at the edge of destruction/reaching out for my life". On the 3D-side, there is a scary ride in some metro-tunnels, a strange phong-shaded globe-like thingy with three mirrors and particle-trails and lots of flares (visual overkill, but I like it a lot), and lots of smaller objects, such as a recursive cube, usually with a nice background and/or an additional 2D-effect. The radial blur is a bit over-used sometimes, for example during the credits. Maybe that's why they show them again at the end, in a (very slow) upscroll. There are some nice transitions between parts, like the strange 2D-plasma that wraps around an object, revealing the next part. There is one funny hand-draw picture of an angry goat, the others are photoshopped backgrounds of an astronaut in space, a human skull with green brains and Leonardo Da Vinci's human body (you know, with the arms & legs spread and a circle around it). [In addition, there is a new start-up screen now, that most of us will recognize from Hugi 16] There's no real theme in it, but somehow, they seem to fit the demo. The big white font at the end is a bit ugly due to the anti-aliasing of the horizontal lines (no, sometimes it's just not necessary) [, and the mixed upper/lowercase letters]. The music: There are two tunes, the main theme and the outtro. The main theme starts slowly with a soft melody and slow drums, then it gets more rhythmical, a bit theatrical at the title sequence. Then we hear a voice sample (something about nuclear weapons, while the goat-picture is shown :)), and after that it burst into a typical demo-soundtrack: lots of fast percussion together with a catchy tune, with an occasional break or a slower part, for example in the metro-tunnels. The endtune is really well done, a nostalgic melody alternated by military-style drum rolls, with the typical "It's all over, folks"-feeling. The main parts of the demo are synchronized to the music, so due to the swapping-slowdowns, some parts might end too fast (some messages are shown only half etc). [Again, this is partly fixed in the final version. If you click the 64-meg-box at startup, only half the demo is loaded at the beginning. The other half is loaded between two 3D-parts, making the screen freeze for a few seconds.] Overall: Well, the first time I watched it, I was really curious what would follow next, all through the demo. No "oh no, not again a !" feeling, it really grabs your attention (although in my case, my attention was easy to get as I should have been studying "object-oriented languages and software development II"). [I passed that exam! Yahoo!] It's varied, never boring, the music is great and there is some humor in it, albeit rather strange humor :). The most bad points are on the technical side, the swapping-slowdowns are really irritating, and sometimes a few meshes disappear (DirectX error?). I hope they'll fix that in the final version. [And yes, they did :). Although you can still see some missing pixels, if you know where to look.] Also, there is no greeting-part, of course this is not an "error", but when I first noticed it, it felt so strange that I watched it again just to check if I overlooked it. So maybe it's better to wait for the final, but if you're curious: go ahead, you'll enjoy it anyway. [ And with the final, you've no excuse for not having seen this. Get it!] Secret part: To see the "secret part" mentioned in the info-file, add the word "goatpower" on the first line of the README.TXT. It wasn't really hard to find, as the .exe is not zipped, and you can find "goatpower" next to "readme.txt" in it. [The first secret part was rather annoying to watch, but now there are three secret parts, and if you like oldskool, the two new ones are great! To see them, do the same thing as above but with "tribute" and "feting"]. Seven =====! intro !================================================================= i originally wanted to review the two great historical intro entries from ragest 99 called: slumpism/pathos and azoic/chrysalis. why they are historical? - you ask. because they saved the dying hungarian scene, and gave us much feeling and now we see the future in pink and optimis- tic. (bad for you outta magyarorsz g. :)) congratulation again to the both groups, names in no alphabetical order: g?za@pathos [code] manka@pathos and autopsy and tpolm [music] nobo@chrysalis [code] tbyte@chrysalis [code] magnetic@teklords and inqisition [music] the full article about these "kult" intros will be avaiable in the next fleur, hahahh, not here. all what i can say, check them. avaiable in good stores near you. d-l? . xc?d + h j?bb = fl??r =====! music !================================================================= Noby / The Sound of Helsinki : human fiction ep available at http://come.to/tsh autumn 1999 I said I was going to look forwards Noby's next release and goddamn it was for a good reason. These three .XM:s are filled with fast et hard pounding detroit techno crafted with tekniq and edge which leave little to be unsatisfied and even give some extra. Even while this "review" is just cliches glued together you should check this out and go get it if you enjoy detroit or any techno at all. np. Lamb =====! quote !================================================================= Q: what is a 64kb intro ? A: a 90kb sized demo which does not run from windows bam!eVolve ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] commercial break! [:=================================================== :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - =====! homepages !============================================================= Groups: 3g Design..............................http://3gdesign.cjb.net Anakata..............................http://www.anakata.art.pl Astral..............................http://astral.scene-hu.com Astroidea........................http://astroidea.scene-hu.com AtomiK..............................http://www.extra.hu/atomik Bomb..................................http://bomb.planet-d.net BlaBla..............................http://blabla.planet-d.net Blasphemy..............................http://www.blasphemy.dk Byterapers.....................http://www.byterapers.scene.org Calodox............................http://calodox.planet-d.net Chrome..............................http://chrome.scene-hu.com Defacto 2..............................http://www.defacto2.net Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed GODS...................................http://www.idf.net/gods Green.....................................http://green.dyns.cx Grif........................http://arrabonet.gyor.hu/~rattgrif Haujobb......................................http://haujobb.de Hellcore............................http://www.hellcore.art.pl Immortals..............................http://imrt.home.ml.org Infuse...................................http://www.infuse.org Just For Fun.........................http://www.avaric.com/jff Kilobite...............................http://kilobite.cjb.net Kooma.....................................http://www.kooma.com Label zero.........................http://labelzero.pganet.com Mandula.........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mandula Monar................ftp://amber.bti.pl/pub/scene/distro/monar Noice.....................................http://www.noice.org Orion..............................http://orion.arfstudios.org Quad........................................http://www.quad.nl Rage........................................http://www.rage.nu Replay.......................http://www.shine.scene.org/replay Rhyme................................http://rhyme.scene-hu.com Skytech team............................http://www.skytech.org Suspend......................http://www.optimus.wroc.pl/rappid Tehdas...................................http://come.to/tehdas Tesko..........................http://www.scentral.demon.co.uk The Black Lotus.............................http://www.tbl.org The Digital Artists Wired Nation.http://digitalartists.cjb.net The Lost Souls...............................http://www.tls.no TPOLM.....................................http://www.tpolm.com Trauma.................................http://sauna.net/trauma T-Rex.....................................http://www.t-rex.org Universe..........................http://universe.planet-d.net Vantage.........................http://www.profzone.ch/vantage Music labels: Aisth.....................................http://www.aisth.com Blacktron Music Production...........http://www.d-zign.com/bmp Jecoute.................................http://jecoute.cjb.net Level-d.................................http://www.level-d.com Milk.......................................http://milk.sgic.fi MAZ's Sound homepage.............http://www.th-zwickau.de/~maz Mo'playaz..........................http://ssmedion.de/moplayaz Mono211.................................http://www.mono211.com Noise................................http://www.noisemusic.org One Touch Records......................http://otr.planet-d.net Radical Rhythms.....http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/merrelli/rr Ruff Engine................http://members.xoom.com/ruff_engine Sound Devotion................http://sugarbomb.x2o.net/soundev Tequila........................http://www.defacto2.net/tequila Tempomusic...........................http://tempomusic.cjb.net Theralite...........................http://theralite.avalon.hr Tokyo Dawn Records........................http://tdr.scene.org UltraBeat.........................http://www.innerverse.com/ub People: 3d addict...................http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc5877 Carlos..............................http://www.nexus.hu/carlos Dave.............................http://www.come.to/davecorner DaVinci.................................http://davinci.ice.org Echo................................http://www.kki.net.pl/echo Exocet........................http://www.avaric.com/jff/exocet Flan.............................http://www.error-404.com/flan Gardner................................http://www.gardner.z.pl Grabule........................http://members.xoom.com/grabule Hunz............................http://www.globec.com.au/~hunz HP........................................http://hp.pardey.org Inferno............................http://inferno.planet-d.net Jimsendu............................http://home.sol.no/ojakobs Jupiter....................http://members.xoom.com/JupiterCode Leviathan....................http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ajcarlso Los........................http://www.angelfire.com/in/miku305 Mephisto.............................http://www.chez.com/shiva <*> Nekrite.....................................http://move.to/ap0 Nico....................................http://geecs.org/~nico Nogsf..............................http://www.saers.com/~nogsf Pow.................................http://home.sol.no/~tskara Rents................................http://newdigital.tsx.org Rez.................................http://reeeeez.citeweb.net Rod.................................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~rod Scorpik............................http://scorpik.planet-d.net Shodan...............................http://shodan.skytech.org Skal..................................http://skal.planet-d.net Spell.........................http://www.ThePentagon.com/Spell Splif..............................http://splif.aegis-corp.org TheREW..............................http://home.wxs.nl/~therew Traven..............................http://traven.planet-d.net TS................................http://www2.hawaii.edu/~myee Tuo.....................................http://tuo.skytech.org Unlock...........................http://www.profzone.ch/unlock Vivid..................................http://vivid.kosmic.org Wain.............http://zevs.ifi.ntnu.no/~frankwer/gfx/gfx.htm Willbe...................................http://willbe.cjb.net Zden....................................http://message.sk/zden Others: Arf!Studios..........................http://www.arfstudios.org Calodox demolinks exchange.....http://calodox.planet-d.net/cde Chiptune...............................http://www.chiptune.com #coders..................................http://coderz.cjb.net Comic Pirates.........................http://scene-central.com Demo fanclub........................http://jerware.org/fanclub Digital Undergrounds.....................http://dug.iscool.net Dreams2 CD.........................http://nl.scene.org/dreams2 Freax...................http://freax.scene-hu.com/mainmenu.htm GfxZone.................................http://www.gfxzone.org Hugi size-compo...............http://home.pages.de/~hugi-compo Orange Juice.........................http://ojuice.citeweb.net PC-demos explained.....http://www.oldskool.org/demos/explained Pixel...................................http://pixel.scene.org Scenet.........................http://www.hackerland.de/scenet Swiss......................http://www.profzone.ch/vantage/list TakeOver................................http://www.takeover.nl Textmode Demo Archive.................http://tmda.planet-d.net Hungarian scene page...................http://www.scene-hu.com Trebel...................................http://www.trebel.org Zen of Tracking.........................http://surf.to/the-imm Diskmags: Amber...............................http://amber.bti.pl/di_mag Amnesia...............http://amnesia-dist.future.easyspace.com Demojournal....................http://demojournal.planet-d.net Fleur................................http://fleur.scene-hu.com Heroin...................................http://www.heroin.net Hugi........................http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload PAiN............................http://www.space.ch/scene/pain Static Line......................http://www.ic.l7.net/statline Total Disaster...................http://www.totaldisaster.w.pl TUHB.......................................http://www.tuhb.org Ftps: Amber.......................................ftp://amber.bti.pl Cyberbox.....................................ftp://cyberbox.de Flerp...................ftp://flerp.scene.hu Scene.org................ftp://ftp.scene.org Skynet archive.................ftp://acid2.stack.nl/pub/skynet ACiD2 Archive.............................ftp://acid2.stack.nl ?------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - !====:] articles [:============================================================ :---------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - I have just read Zilog review in DJ#58, and want to write some facts: 1. I had to use RAR, because i delivered the demo to party organizers on two floppies. Inside the RAR files was a ZIP file... I don't know who sent the RAR files to scene.org instead of that ZIP file... 2. Actually you can't find final version of demo at Hellcore's home page, as editor replied. You can however find it at my personal page: http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~mrock (or http://mrock.iscool.net, if you like pop-up windows with banners ;). But it seems, that it's not as final as people would expect... 3. Ok, now about my computer :). I got old'n'rusty 486dx4/100+16mb. (so, MMX is not used at all!). Zilog does not crash on it in any configuration (xms/ems/w95osr2). I tested demo also on Yez's Celeron 333, and it also worked fine (under dos) (errmm OK, after a little bugfix ;))... Configuration of Gravity compo machine you can probably find on Gravity homepage (look at demojournal's "party on!" section, that url is there). Zilog also did not crash on that machine. 4. A week ago, Yez told me, that Zilog now crashes on his machine, after he installed w98se (i understand that crashes when running under win). Also last days Io/Fuse told me, that Zilog crashes on his computer (p200 or sth) in every configuration. And now I have read that review in DemoJournal and realized, that Zilog crashes on 50% of computers :). So, in a week or two, I will try to test Zilog on one of these fatal computers, and personally see, how it crashes. I will put the "even more final version" on my page (of course, if I find that buggy code ;)). 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